Update: 06.10.06—Dennis Georgatos, of the San Jose Mercury News, reports San Francisco 49ers head coach Mike Nolan dismissed Internet speculation about a three-team trade involving 49ers TE Eric Johnson. “His name has not come up,” Nolan said. “There’s absolutely nothing now in the works.”
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There has been some buzz today about a three team trade involving Ashley Lelie, SF’s Eric Johnson and the Saints Donte Stallworth. Lelie would go to New Orleans, Stallworth to the 49ers and Johnson to Denver. I think Denver is still just shaking the tree with teams to see what exactly they can get for Lelie.
Source: [Jeremy Green – ESPN]
thizz face in da bay said:
who the hell is ashley lelie..i agree this would be a great trade 4 DA NINERZ if they could get stallworth for only EJ and the number 1 draft pick next year ;D yaddaimseyin. boy is a freak but does not possess an ego the size of europe like click clack
2 days after the fact.Benji said:
i don´t know if this is true. It´s just a rumor. I mean that would be awesome
Getting Donte for letting EJ go to Denver. I think it´s just one more rumor out of the offseason rumor mill. But who knows… Let´s stay tuned…
2 days after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
OHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA IMPOSSIBLE
THIS IS THE EPITOME OF A RUMOR =]
being more realistic…..
DENVER GETS ERIC JOHNSON
2 days after the fact.NEW ORLEANS GETS ASHLEY LELIE
49ERS GET 6TH ROUND PICK
GoT VD??? said:
SouNdz good I think it’ll happen…
2 days after the fact.the coach said:
I love the idea of the Niners lining EJ and VD up in a two tight end set. It’d create a lot of mismatches and provide two safety valves for Alex.
I wish I knew the contracts of EJ and Stallworth though.
With that being said, I think I’ll be the minority…I think most people would love this trade.
2 days after the fact.Erickson said:
The coach…EJ is set to make $1.55 mil this season. FA after this year. Stallworth is set to make $1.92 mil this season and they show 545,000 in 2007.
2 days after the fact.GoT VD??? said:
Hey erickson since this is a rumor from 1-10 how likely do u think this will happen.
2 days after the fact.Eric said:
Now we’re talking… Davis, Donte, Bryant… Bryant obviously wouldn’t be a happy camper dropping to the 2nd WR… but I’ll take a few extra W’s!
2 days after the fact.Niner said:
Erickson- I thought EJ signed a contract extension after the ‘03 when he was on IR.
2 days after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
Antonio Bryant will still be the #1 receiver you idiot Eric
2 days after the fact.Eric said:
Listen up you fuckin shit dick! How the fuck would Bryant be the #1? Bryant may be not far behind as a #2, but when health Stallworth is a stud! Worry about the Faiders not the 9ers.
2 days after the fact.BillyJoeJimBob said:
Why would you guys get all excited about getting another injury plaqued receiver?
2 days after the fact.BillyJoeJimBob said:
Hey Eric: the dummy is right, there is no way Stallworth would beb the #1 receiver over Bryant. First of all, I can’t remember him being healthy for a full year, and even if he was healthy he still didn’t produce. Besides that, he is just another puss who won’t go over the middle.
2 days after the fact.Arock49 said:
BRYANT IS A BAD ASS, No way would Donte be number 1 but he does make a real, real nice #2. If the rumor is true….INK THAT SHIT
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2 days after the fact.corey said:
I know Stallworth is a nice WR, but Eric Jhonson is a fuckin stud. If we don’t keep this cat on the squad I guarantee we will regret it. Mark my words. If Denver pulls Eric Johnson out of all this then the afc west is spoken for a spot in the 2007 super bowl. (as long as Plummer pulls his head out of his ass!)
2 days after the fact.Davis #6 Pick for President said:
I’de do it in a heartbeat if it’s on the table.
2 days after the fact.Johann said:
why would the saints want lelie when drew brees is their qb and doesnt have the physical ability to utilize the deep fiel threat of lelie? and denver is definitely getting the most out of the deal, trading a wr that thinks hes better than he really is for a great tight end
1 day after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
Eric why don’t you calm down you ignorant bastard
get your facts straight before saying something
1 day after the fact.cali boy in wa said:
this trade will b graet for the niners. tuner doesnt use the tight end that much, vd is really a big wide out, and donte will make it harder for the dcords to line up 3 and 4 db to math the speed we will have on o, does any one remember the old rams, speed speed speed. speed killed the niners last year,we have terry jones for our blocking tightend
1 day after the fact.ted bundy said:
i totally disagree with this trade, if we get rid of EJ, we have absolutely no depth at TE, not saying we have much at receiver, but were more stable at WR than TE, VD and EJ at TE and Battle and Bryant on the outs with a healthy Gore in the backfield, thats a pretty good offensive threat.
1 day after the fact.John said:
its a balancing act, right now, we have the deepest TE spot in the NFL. if we get rid of EJ, we’ll still be in good shape, bajeema was a rookie, and has room to improve, but yeah, i definitly think we end up signing a FA TE. but right now we have all ? recievers with the exception of bryant, no one has reall ybeen proven, yes even arnez battle..
so Donte is alot better then all our other #2 recievers, i’d take him.
1 day after the fact.Goodbye Lloyd said:
Anytime you can trade someone named eric for someone named donte you are automatically increasing your teams athletic ability.
1 day after the fact.mdg said:
the niners are getting the short end of the stick here this is a very bad trade if it goes down the niners would loose the best offence they have the double tightend strategy which i think will be a huge success cant take nothin away from lelie or stallworth there both great players they just would not fit in wit the niner system were trying to run if we need to trade someone trade barlow an a 5th rounder not our tightend no thats not smart well niner fans lets hope were smart about this 49ers4life
1 day after the fact.MJ said:
The 49ers should avoid such a poor trade. Eric Johnson and Vernon Davis are to create a two “TE threat” that is to confuse defenses. If we get Donte Stallworth then it kind of beats the purpose, doesn’t it? I still think if we were really in such need of a big reciever we could have traded a 4th round pick from this year plus a second from next year for Javon Walker. That option is now gone. Now the need to add Stallworth? That makes no sense. And not just that, sorry and regretfully to say our young quarterback is still unproven so giving him weapons he does not know how to use is really pointless. Eric Johnson and VD being out there together will at least give Smith a “security blanket” to bide him some time so that if he drops a football behind him he could pick it up and still throw it forward. (My goodness, how everything went to shit when York took over the team!)
1 day after the fact.Eric said:
ignorant? you can do better than that son… grow up
1 day after the fact.Anonymous said:
ill pitch in some $$$ on that trade
22 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
well put mj, i totally agree with u
22 hours after the fact.Vin said:
I think this trade would be a great one for the Niners. They give up a guy who’s injury prone and hasn’t played a full season in who remembers how long, to take in a guy who is a talented reciever.
Receiving-wise, the 49ers wouldn’t lose anything. If anything, they could possibly gain receiving talent (WR+TEs). Stallworth is faster that EJ (obviously), and he has some solid hands (as does EJ).
The one thing the Niners would lose is the 2 TE gimmick. That is all it is, a gimmick. So say they go two TE for a while… how long does it take for NFL defenses to adjust? Do remember that linebackers are faster than all hell now-a-days (see DJ Williams, Ernie Sims, Dan Morgan, Brian Urlacher), and safeties are getting bigger. The tight end could cause matchup problems… if you force the other team to stay in a regular (4-3, or 3-4) package. What happens when they come in with an extra linebacker… or an extra safety instead? Theres no doubt that The Duke’s talent can out-do any linebacker and safety, but he’s unproven experience-wise. EJ’s talent is in his hands, route-running, and hard-nosed style of play. He doesn’t necessarily have the ability to break free from someone who may matchup well against him.
Stallworth will force teams to stay honest. They can’t cheat the line of scrimmage or the box if there are WRs capable of going deep or wreaking havoc over the middle. This is not to mention we have a super WR that’s masquerading as a tight end in VD. Three players potentially going long… how can you cheat against that?
All I am saying is that with a 2-TE set, opposing defenses will eventually figure out how to “cheat the box” and defend against the gimmick. With a more conventional 2 WR, 1 (Super) TE, and 2 (fresh) RB set, it makes the defense have to guess a little more.
Keep in mind that with an WR of Stallworth’s caliber, when we go 3 WR, we would have more potential than we do now. Stallworth, Bryant, Battle, and VD lining up with Gore or Hicks coming out of the backfield is a great 3rd down or even 1st down package in my book.
21 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
“Listen up you fuckin shit dick! How the fuck would Bryant be the #1? Bryant may be not far behind as a #2, but when health Stallworth is a stud! Worry about the Faiders not the 9ers.
Comment by Eric — June 8, 2006 @ 5:27 pm”
yeah I should grow up huh
21 hours after the fact.VDisOROY said:
why the hell is a raider fan here?
21 hours after the fact.VDisOROY said:
i’m just kidding dummy, and you are right, even though you might not know a lot about the niners… antonio bryant is definitely our #1.
21 hours after the fact.kratzer14 said:
we need d get a safty r a dt even take a cb. make a trade for something thats gonna count not for players thats gonna play only half the year.
21 hours after the fact.stoney said:
Vin—2 TE set is a gimmick if you have the traditional TE’s. But the 9ers TE’s are not your traditional TE you will get the mismatch, even with LB’s getting faster and S being LB’s with more speed. VD and EJ are WR’s in a TE body. The VD having potentially #1 WR speed and EJ having #1 WR hands. In the Nickle or Dime check to a shallow route, with an LB or S covering deep post or slant.
Only way it works is with a healthy EJ. Donte has not shown to be to reliable physically and other that his rookie season, is just a #2.
21 hours after the fact.stoney said:
Another Rumor:
A league source said that the Broncos have been associated with another veteran running back – T.J. Duckett of the Atlanta Falcons – as part of a potential three-team trade. The deal would also send Broncos wide receiver Ashley Lelie to the New England Patriots and Patriots tight end Daniel Graham to the Falcons, who could also receive a draft choice.—By John Murphy, Yahoo! Sports
21 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
dont they already have alge crumpler?
20 hours after the fact.mdg said:
ok the two tightend will be a huge sucess davis will burn the linebackers an smash the safteys an johnson has great hands which will take pressure off davis bryant is fast wit good hands will get hios chance to blow up in sanfranan with that gore will have a good season running the ball smith will show why he was picked number one with turner on his side we might not make the playoffs but i predict a good season the start of the niners run this trade would ruin our offense sceme stallworth is a good player just wont fit in here not if we trade johnson trade barlow an a pic 4th rounder
19 hours after the fact.Vin said:
stoney: I’m not doubting EJ’s ability as a receiving tight end. But think about it this way: hands don’t buy you everything in this league (see B.Lloyd).
Everyone is assuming that VD will go deep, just because of his speed. His highlight reels (which are all we really have to go off of) show him taking short catches.. 5 to 10 yard ins and outs and slants, and then breaking them for more.
I’m not arguing that Stallworth would be the #1, because he’s not. His size and lack of consistency kind of prevents him from being #1. But he is just as consistent as EJ, so why not have Donte’s speed?. Between he and Bryant, the opposing secondary won’t know who is going deep: as it could be Bryant, Stallworth, or Davis.
Every team we would have to go through to get to (and through) the playoffs will have at least one good starting corner which can cover Bryant: the guy is only 6 foot tall and he has only slightly above average speed. Not every team has two corners who can hold their own AND two safeties to watch the deep threat and the TE over the middle.
The debate is all for naught anyhow, as this is a highly unlikely trade. Either way, the Niners will have great potential on offense, I just think having a conventional 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB set is better to establish prolonged success… as opposed to 2 TE where teams have the tools to stop two Tony Gonzalezes and a WR.
17 hours after the fact.jonr42 said:
Why wouldn’t we just trade Johnson for Lelie
17 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
fuck stallworth, fuck lelie, fuck the broncos, and fuck the saints, reality is nolan and co. will not trade EJ, he adds a whole nother dimension to our offense with VD, he has one more year left on his contract and they are at least going to test the waters with this offense before seriously considering trading our team leader in receptions(2004). thats whats really going to happen.
16 hours after the fact.Dave said:
See if we don’t think EJ will resign with us after this year, then we might as well trade him. That’s one of the reasons why we traded Brandon Lloyd. If a player has a year left on his contract and has shown signs that he wants out, and he’s not exactly a player worth franchising, or dishing out the major dough for, then by all means you should get something in return to help the team.
Take the Winborn trade for example. He was in the last year of his contract, and while we didn’t like the trade at the time, we traded him to Jacksonville for a low round draft pick. Winborn was injured early in his stay @ JAX and then became a free agent a few months later.
Brandon Lloyd had 1 year left on his contract and was a drama queen in the making. We traded him for a 3rd this year and a 4th next year.
I think in the end of it, it’s pretty smart. Nolan seems to like to trade players who have a short contract left.
And also… what’s with the hostility? We’re all niner fans here… that’s no way to treat a brother
14 hours after the fact.VDhasVD said:
Saying Stallworth wont go across the middle is one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. Thats what he does best. Have any of you goofs ever seen him play?
11 hours after the fact.Justin said:
I agree with Bundy. Nolan and the 49ers love and respect Eric Johnson way too much to let him go. Especially after how well his practices have been going.
10 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
dave, although you make some good points, i still disagree, lloyd and winborn obviously showed signs that the coaches didnt like, hence their trades, i’ll give u that, but EJ has not done anything to show the team that he plans on not returning or not giving his all, just cuz we drafted VD doesnt automatically make him expendable, EJ actually went to the coaches at the end of last year and renewed his commitment and devotion to the niners, he is a total nolan guy who will play his heart out every snap, but in case he doesnt, we do have until week six to find a decent trade
and also… my bad on the hostility, it just adds element to my point
9 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
dave, although u make some good points, i still disagree, lloyd and winborn obviously showed signs that the coaches didn’t like, hence their trades, ill give u that, but EJ has not showed any signs that he plans on not returning or not giving his all, he actually went to nolan and co. at the end of last year and renewed his commitment and devotion to the niners, he is a total nolan guy who will play his heart out every snap on every sunday, just cuz we drafted VD doesn’t make him expendable, and if he does begin to show signs we have until week 6 to find a decent trade
and also… my bad for the hostility, it adds element to my point
8 hours after the fact.ajizay said:
thank god i dont want ashie hes to soft
2 hours after the fact.baaqi said:
I like the idea of stallworth I mean everybody is saying that lelie is soft so maybe we should go with stallworth but we definatly need another receiver and maybe we should try to keep EJ with VD like my man said that would be sick to have both of them on the feild at the same time.
We might have to give up EJ in the trade so why not get another receiver but I’m not sure who.
3 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
49erwebzone is reporting:
“I’m going to let itself play out,” Nolan said of the tight end competition. “I’m excited to see what Eric can do.”
“Honest to God, that’s the first I’ve heard of it,” Nolan said when asked about a trade possibility.”
4 hours after the fact.MJ said:
Darn it why can’t someone start a FUN fake rumor?? Like us getting Ty Law or York selling the team to an owner that is not a penny-pincher?? Those are happy stories….....alas the days of old…...
4 hours after the fact.thizz face in da bay said:
Rumor:
49ersnews is reporting that the 49ers are possibly involved in trading QB Alex Smith to the Packers for QB Aaron Rodgers, a 7th round draft pick in 2008 and a player to be named later (which could posibly be injury prone Frank Gore)
this would be a great trade imo because the niners would be getting a qb which has been under the tutelage of a future Hall of Fame QB in Brett Farve.. and best of all we’ll also be getting a draft picks which makes it possible for more projects!!
4 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
you are absolutely right thizzler
the 49ers love getting projects! lets see who they got as project so far…
delanie walker
4 hours after the fact.michael robinson
rasheed marshall
cody pickett (HAHAH PATHETIC)
patrick estes
manny lawson
corey smith
onye ibeket(the fucking basketball player)
thizz face in da bay said:
damn you faider fan my boy lawson aint a projectm he gonna turn out to be a real lb with 150 tackles/season, you jsut watch. stop posting on 49ers forum shouldnt you be paying attention to your “star” wr in moss who last time i checked wasnt the most famous moss anymore
4 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
that was a stupid trade proposal thizzy
heres mine
eric johnson for your future 6th rounder
kevan barlow for your future 7th rounder
justin smiley for your future 7th rounder
alex smith for samkon gado and 7th rounder
sorry the trades dont look good to 49er fans but this is how the front office does trades! (winborn for 6th, rattay for 7th) we basically trade our starters for 6th and 7th rounders thus our starters are of late round caliber players
ERRRBODY KNOWS THE REAL GEMS ARE IN THE 6TH AND 7TH ROUNDS!
5 hours after the fact.thizz face in da bay said:
samkon gado AND a 7th round for smith?? I ACCEPT whatta talent. in response to the trades of winborn and rattay, they were just filling in at a time when the niners were desperate, management was LUCKY to get late draft picks for them, i would’ve have just cut them yaddaseyin
i think the real jems are in the 1st round because look at the talent that has come out of that round: alex smith, kwame harris, courtney brown, pete warrick, tim couch just to name a few yee yee
5 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
oh and reggie mcgrew, andre carter, mike rumph, ji drunkenmiller, jj stokes, rashaun woods
5 hours after the fact.filthyrich said:
you keep johnson
6 hours after the fact.I RIDE MIKE NOLANS DICK =] said:
HEY WE’re GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
NOLAN NOES WHAT HES DUIN WHEN HE TRADES STARTERS FOR 6 & 7 ROUND PICKS THAT HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE TEAM AT ALL
I CAN SAY I LOVE YOU NOLAN ON BEHALF OF NINER NATION =]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
8 hours after the fact.Justin said:
Whats up with this Dummy in Oakland mother fucker? And I know that you are a Dallas fan. The Dallas Dickriders right? That team that has a player in court every fucking week. Are maybe you are a Raiders fan. You know, the team that turns stars into dirt, for example: Moss and Sapp. Why do you visit other teams sites? NO ONE HERE LISTENS TO THE SHIT THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! YOU ARE JUST A HATER THAT BASHES ON OTHER TEAMS BECAUSE YOU ARE JEALOUS THAT YOUR TEAM HASN’T DONE SHIT DURING THE OFFSEASON. DRINK SOME HATERADE AND SHUT YOUR GOD DAMN MOUTH!
8 hours after the fact.Justin said:
the 49ers love getting projects! lets see who they got as project so far…
onye ibeket(the fucking basketball player)
Remember a guy by the name of Antonio Gates, the star tight end of the San Diego Chargers? He was a basketball player also. I’m not saying that Onye Ibeket will be another Antonio Gates for sure. But who knows, who could surprise some people.
8 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
hey justin stop bashing on the raiders. instead, prove what i said is wrong. name another basketball player with no experience in nfl that did well
9 hours after the fact.Davis #6 Pick for President said:
For all the non-niners fans on here, why in the hell do you frequent the 49er news blog?
I think I have the answer. Your all professional haters! If I wanna bash a team I’ll do it to my friends, not on the web to a bunch of ppl I don’t know. Come on ppl, get a life.
11 hours after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
i AM A 49ers FAN
i frequent the 49ers blog because i love nolan
11 hours after the fact.ted bundy said:
hey davis i feel u, but since no one can really do anything about all these fuckin haters,i just dont pay attention anymore, but i would love to just slap one of them(dummy, thizz) but reality is that they are lil ass kids trying to cause ruckus in a grown mans world, sooner or later, it’ll catch up, out!
12 hours after the fact.dannyb0y06 said:
I knew this trade was complete bs right out of the gate
1 day after the fact.GoT vD??? said:
You guyz are fuckin losers on the NINERS
blog talkin shit maybe ur damn team don’t have a blog for u to even be on especially u raider fans yo guess what were tha original team of the bay
You guyz are just one of those neihbors who can’t seem to get there lifes together moss and sapp??? Yea they was supposed to revive ur frachise right?NOT
! The best player on your team is…........well ill b damn there ISN’T ONE
FuCC thE fAidErS the CoWgIrlS SeAchiCkeNs And if I missed any thing lemme kno NineRs baby
!!
1 day after the fact.Michael said:
With the trades we shouldnt make fun of what we got for Rattay and Winborn after the fact that Steve McNair was just traded for a 4th rounder. If he is a 4th then Ratta and Winborn are both worth 7th rounders. We should be lucky Lloyd is overrated or we would have gotten a 7th rounder for him too.
2 days after the fact.thizz face in da bay said:
mcnair is an aging qb who possibly might be on his last legs after being traded to baltimore, if he was still a productive qb why would titans trade him and leave themselves vunerable with young (vince not steve lol). plus everyone knows the hidden gems are in the 4th round, or in the niners’ case undrafted rookies. lloyd isnt overrated, you not only get a stealthy with great hands, but a record droppin grammy award winner that fills the seats
2 days after the fact.MJ said:
Dummy in Oakland, you may say some things that piss some of these guys off but I can not believe I am saying this but I agree with some of the things you say. Nolan made some great draft picks, but the man sucks as a coach. (Personal opinion people.) Honestly though, its more the fault of our penny-[inching owner York who has killed the team himself. You know what has hurt the team more? Fans like the ones the 49ers have today! That’s right, I said it! I have been a 49er fan my entire life, and I loved that every year we did not care about making the playoffs, we expected a Superbowl! Fans accepted nothing less. Today, I hear you pansies talking about rebuilding and Mike Nolan’s plan. Yall are gay. Nolan made two good draft picks and some really dumb ones. We should have never drafted Alex Smith last year (I think we should have traded down the pick) and this year we should have teaded for Javon Walker. I think we should also sign Ty Law….........but wait, no. “One person does not make a team,” right fellas? (Deion Sanders would laugh at all of you, he did it for us and then Dallas….) Big name players are KEY to winning games, we used to be teams that went for big named players, remember…..Before the time of York?? Know yall just piss me off with your rebuilding and “C’mon Alex.” You tell me how the f%#$# a first pick in the nfl draft drops the ball behind him 4 times in one game
BAD CHOICES, THE TEAM HAS GONE TO SHIT! Frankly, I blame the fans that stand by and accept it happening instead of doing something about it.
As for dummy in Oakland, the Raiders are the gayest team in football. Do not think the Raiders are any better than us, yall actually had a quarterback with experience, Randy Moss, Woodson, Lamont Jordan, Warren Sapp, and arguably the best offensive coordinator in history as your head coach and could not do shit. The Raiders have big name talent but suck as a team. The 49ers produce talent and as soon as they blossom we trade them away because we don’t want to pay to keep them. Why? Because we are no longer seeking superbowls every year…..naaaah, these days the fans “pray for the playoffs…..”
2 days after the fact.ted bundy said:
MJ, a little harsh but partially true, maybe the fans have degraded their expectations to “pray for playoffs” each year, but the fact of the matter is that last year no team was willing to trade up to the number one spot cuz there was no one player there that they couldnt get at a lower pick, not every rookie qb has the luxury of like a dan marino or roethlisberger to go to an already good team, we made do with what was there and smith is a damn smart kid, as far as “One person does not make a team” is totally true, we also had tim mcdonald and merton hanks and others in the secondary that year that contributed to the super bowl, and if i am not mistaken, all but one of our db’s made it to the pro bowl that year, deion may have elevated their game but it wasn’t all him, that year was the only real year “big name FA’s” actually gave us a super bowl, everything b4 that we built, and y r u calling niner fans gay? ur a niner fan, r u gay? that was the dumbest shit i have read on this blog yet, but i agree about the ownership of this team, york has crashed and burned this franchise to the ground, but i am a nolan believer, how can u say he sucks as a coach after one year, its not fair to say that u need to give him at least another year or two plus given the fact what donahue and erickson left him with,
2 days after the fact.it will happen and when it does, u wont be saying niner fans are gay
shaboobalaboopy said:
fuck all yall that left a message here alex smith is the truth he will be way better than tom brady,peyton manning, and possibly joe montana
2 days after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
what makes you think that? he cant even hold on to the damn ball
2 days after the fact.Justin said:
Don’t know about the whole ball handling situation. But I heard that there is a new rule allowing visiting teams to use their own balls on offense or something like that. Plus, Alex Smith has been working with moist and muddy footballs to help him get used to bad weather. Being better than Tom Brady’s overrated ass, yes. Better than Peyton Manning, shrugs shoulder. Better than Joe Montana, woah woah woah woah woah woah woah… Lois this is not my Batman glass.
3 days after the fact.go dummy in oakland said:
fuckin dork
3 days after the fact.maverick said:
yo, mj, if big name players are KEY to winning games, why did the raiders, with all those big names that you mentioned, have a higher draft pick then the niners?
3 days after the fact.MJ said:
Maverick, they are the Raiders. They just suck. The rule applies to everyone but them. Ha Ha Ha. As for Justin and the ball-handling rule, man are you serious? You mean to tell me that after all these years of football where all the other quarterbacks played with different footballs that Alex Smith’s reason for dropping it was because it was “moist and muddy?” Give me a break. I still think he was a bad pick, but time will tell (I hope I am wrong.) As for Ted Bundy, I said Nolan made great draft picks but I still do not like him as a coach. Yes, only one year but how close have you watched the guy? HE IS DEFENSIVELY ORIENTED like no other coach I have ever seen. If you watched our games last year as painfully as I did, like that 2nd game against the Eagles (for example) then tell me this: Why is it when we were down by over 20 points and it was halfway through the 4th quarter…..why on earth were we punting on 4th down and 2’s??? WHY WERE WERE WE PUNTING ON 4th DOWNS AT ALL WHEN DOWN THAT MUCH??? You take the chance, go for it, and let your team learn. You TRY to win, not give up and try to lose by less points. That is ridiculous. Or have you seen Nolan’s time management last year? The man is an idiot when it comes to the time clock! There were 3 games last year we would have won if he knew how to manage time. Like were are down by 7 or less points, its the fourth quarter with less that 4 minutes left, and than 2 minutes left, and the idiot does not call a single timout to stop the clock! Nope. He lets the offense hurry, make bad plays, and punt the ball (with less that 2 minutes left in the game mind you) and prays the defense gets an interception. The man is so defensively oriented that its the reason the defense is on the field so much more than the offense. The man knows nothing about offense. I really do believe he hopes the defense, which is all he knows, will get him his interceptions and fumbles. So am I “rollin’ with Nolan?” Probably not. I am rolling with the 49ers. As for me calling 49er fans gay, nah brah you got it wrong. Only those who say they are 49er fans that say we are rebulding every year instead of demanding nothing less of a Superbowl.
3 days after the fact.MJ said:
Also for you Maverick, some examples of big name players making an impact are: Deion Sanders to the 49ers, Deion Sanders to the Cowboys, Terell Owens to the Eagles (he got them to the Superbowl), Joe Montana to the Chiefs (no superbowl but big impact), Jerry Rice to the Raiders (took them to the Superbowl).......list goes on and on. But the rule applies to everyone but the Raiders. Rice carried them as far as they could cuz he was a 49er. HELL THAT BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER REASON I DON’T LIKE NOLAN, THAT ASS WOULD NOT LET RICE SIGN WITH THE 49ers THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR SO THAT HE COULD RETIRE HIS JERSEY. He said he needed “a roster spot for players.” Yeah, ok, players like Kwame Harris….........
3 days after the fact.ted bundy said:
MJ, actually nolan did offer Rice a spot at to retire as a 49er at the beginning of training camp but rice decided to try out for a number 3 spot with the broncos and when he didnt get it after pre season, then he decided to retire, u cant blame nolan cuz he offered, rice just didnt accept, and as for last years offensive mishaps, dont forget that nolan gave mcarthy the offense to run, it wasnt even nolan amking those decisions, didnt u read any news and updates last trainig camp, when nolan said mcarthy would make the majority of the offensive decisions, that includes calling the plays, in my opinion i agree with u on the way the time clock got dealt with, but that was mcarthy, we’ll see the difference this year with turner calling the plays, and do u honestly believe ty law will help us get to the super bowl? even with javon walker? lets not forget he tore his acl, what if we gave up that first round pick for him and he doesn’t pan out? then what?we are right back to square one. rebuilding is a big process in football, it’s not like basketball and baseball where one year is horrible then the next ur contending for a championship, everything has to be in proper place, thats what builds dynasties and powerhouses, thats’s why we were great for so long, now it’s time to do it all over again. by the way, his jersey will still get retired, he just didnt retire as a 49er
3 days after the fact.shaboobalaboopy said:
jerry rice should of had his number retired because he was the best 49er player in history
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